Irish Coin Daily: Ormonde Money, Twopence, Small Lozenge between CR; thick numerals + small ‘D’ on reverse

Date: 1643-44

AR siege twopence. .93 gm. 14 mm. Ormonde Siege coinage. (1643). C R crowned, in the field left. Crown; left arch touches inner circle; C: thicker lines, top serif curves outward, lower part ends in a blunt point. R: thicker lines, extended leg does not cross inner circle, ends in a curve / II, small D above, all within inner circle; thick numerals, slightly out-of line with one another, small D above; all within inner circle. S. 6550. D&F 311. Very Fine; well centered on a generous flan; slight roughness; overall attractive and very rare.



Ormonde Money, Twopence, small lozenge between CR; thick numerals and small ‘D’ on reverse.

  • Weight: 0.93 g

References: S 6550, DF 311

Well-struck and nicely centred on a somewhat irregular flan.

  • Very Fine (VF)
  • Toned.
  • Very Rare


  • Crowned C·R (for Charles Rex) within a double circle
    • Small lozenge between C·R
    • Serifed ‘C’ and ‘R’ entirely inside the inner (wire) circle


  • Roman numeral II (denoting 2d, or twopence / half-groat) within a double circle

    • Thick numerals entirely inside the inner (wired) circle.
    • Small ‘D’ above.



The ‘Ormonde money’ is so called because it was supposed to have been issued during the Viceroyalty of James, Marquis of Ormonde, who first received his appointment as Lord Lieutenant of Ireland on the 17th November, 1643, and was sworn into office the 21st January following. He was later created Duke of Ormonde and was considered a Royalist – therefore being the enemy of both the Confederate Catholics in Ireland and Cromwell’s Parliamentarians in England during the (simultaneously fought) Great Irish Rebellion and the English Civil War, respectively.

On the 25th May, 1643, a letter was issued at Oxford by the King, in which he directed his Lords Justices in Ireland to encourage his Majesty’s loyal subjects to bring in their plate to the treasury that it might be coined

“into small peeces, to the value of five shillings, halfe-crowns, twelve-pences, six-pences, or of any less value, which several small peeces they shall make of the same weight, value and allay, as our moneys now currant in England of those value respectively are, and shall stamp the same on the one side, with these letters, C. K. for Carolus King, with a crown over those letters, and on the other side with the values of the said several peeces respectively.”    

This broke with the traditional ‘best practise’ whereby Irish silver was valued at less than its English equivalent in order to stop it from flooding out of the country.


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